The Doctor Who thread

[griffin]

twas no regeneration he merely used a small portion of regen energy.

No, that's the point. Reguardless of how much of the regeneration energy he actually used, a Timelord body can only generate 12 bursts of regeneration energy, and he had one of those 'bursts' in the final episode. It is irrelevant as to what happens to that energy (he used some and focussed the rest into his severed hand), the fact remains, his body has now used up one of his 12 bursts of regeneration energy, and as such, he is now the 11th Doctor (which spawned 2 hybrid human-timelords in the process).

I just feel that the writer threw it in as a cliff-hanger, promo concept, without realising that a regeneration is not a change of form, but a regeneration of the body from a cellular level to save a Timelord from dying - change of form is a side-effect, if they are conscious enough to choose to not to change - thus it counts as a regeneration in terms of previous regenerations.

1st regeneration - body was 900 years old, so probably was just dying from old age.
2nd regeneration - not actually dying, but forced regeneration by the Timelord council. (this one could be claimed to be like Romana's physical changes, and not an actual regeneration - but I think it was definitely stated as a full regeneration in addition to the physical change because the Doctor was very upset about it being done to him)
3rd regeneration - dying from cellular decay from exposure to radiation.
4th regeneration - dying from a fall.
5th regeneration - dying from a toxin.
6th regeneration - maybe dying from a head injury when he was knocked to the floor in the TARDIS.
7th regeneration - dying from gunshot wound and/or surgery on the wound.
8th regeneration - not shown/known
9th regeneration - dying from absorbing space-time energy from Rose.
(10th regeneration) - dying from being shot by a Dalek, doesn't change physical form though.

This wiki article also makes the mistake of saying that a regeneration is just a physical change, not a repair or resurrection of the Timelord, reguardless of a phyiscal change occuring:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_...#Regenerations

I just noticed that the actor himself picked up on this as well, wondering if this could be seen as using up one of his regenerations, but will be something they will probably worry about later. Footnote 18 - 'Now, whether this means the Doctor has used up one of his limited regenerations or not is a matter for some future debate, I suspect'

At least someone official has it on the record that this could/should count as a regeneration, because as I keep saying, a physical change is not required for a regeneration to save the life of a Timelord 12 times.

(can you tell that I'm obsessed about this... )

[Thanatos]

Haha you guys and your nerdiness...

So yeah... how awesome was the season finale :P

Can't wait to see where they go with it now. Martha was my fave companion but tbh I feel more for Donna's fate, back into the life of nothing on Earth where before she had the time-lord consciousness. Seems a bit rough.

Guess the next part they need to get into is River Song. That arc interests me to no end.

[GoktimusPrime]

You're on a board full of grown adults who play with toys dude. It's agiven.

I just noticed that the actor himself picked up on this as well, wondering if this could be seen as using up one of his regenerations, but will be something they will probably worry about later. Footnote 18 - 'Now, whether this means the Doctor has used up one of his limited regenerations or not is a matter for some future debate, I suspect'

At least someone official has it on the record that this could/should count as a regeneration, because as I keep saying, a physical change is not required for a regeneration to save the life of a Timelord 12 times.

Yeah, David Tennant himself is a long-time Doctor Who fan IRL. When Chris Eccleston played the Ninth Doctor, the ending credits had his character listed as "Doctor Who." David Tennant on the other hand insisted that his character be listed as "The Doctor," and not "Doctor Who" in the credits.

Yeah... I've always found it kinda lame out the Sixth Doctor regenerated into the Seventh Doctor after a mere bump to the noggin'. (-_-) Some fans have speculated that the Doctor was unhappy with this incarnation so when he slipped into unconciousness, he willed himself to regenerate. But yeah... strange how he'll regenerate after a tumble, but can stop himself from fully regenerating after being slain by a Dalek.

I think it's as you said, the writer was looking for an excuse to create an edge-of-your-seat cliffhanger without realising the impact that it may have for overall continuity. Blarg. Hopefully it'll be retconned later as Tennant eluded to.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Out of interest whats everyone fav Doctor?
For me its Christopher Eccleston. He be awesome!

[GoktimusPrime]

Traditionally my favourite Doctor has been the Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker), but the Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) is coming close to being equal fave! I think it's only a matter of time before the 10th Doctor will equal and supercede the Fourth Doctor in my heart!

I also quite like the Seventh Doctor.

[Vector Sigma 13]

Out of interest whats everyone fav Doctor?
For me its Christopher Eccleston. He be awesome!

I think Eccleston had a lot to offer. I loved the latest series, bit of a sad ending though. (wipes tear from eye)

Some Eccleston Magic:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEAzJ...eature=related

[GoktimusPrime]

I liked the Ninth Doctor as being this "dark" Doctor... emotionally scarred from the Time War - fans commonly speculate that the Eighth Doctor was killed during the Time War, thus regenerating into the Ninth Doctor. The Tenth Doctor did say that the Meta-Doctor was like himself when he first met Rose as the Ninth Doctor; full of anger and emotional trauma from the Time War... and that Rose helped him to heal from that, and that she would do the same for the Meta-Doctor.

[loophole]

My favourite is the 3rd doctor John Pertwee. When ABC started rerunning the Docto Who series from the beginning right to the end i watched it all i even have a Doctor Who costume based on the Tom Baker version.

Know for my small rant i had watched all of the new Doctor Who series except for all of he last one i only watched a couple. Now the current doctor is probally my 2nd favourite of the lot. But i was finding that alot of episodes they had a good strory and would spend the whole episode building up the story usually about how the world was about to end or whatever the situation and then they had to quickly finish the episode and in the last 5-10min the Doctor would just suddenly think of something that would end the coming disaster it all just seemed very rushed and it really put me off it. Maybe i just liked the old ones better where you would see 5/6 episode arc but hey thats just me. I am however going to watch after it all comes out on DVD though.

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At least someone official has it on the record that this could/should count as a regeneration, because as I keep saying, a physical change is not required for a regeneration to save the life of a Timelord 12 times.

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No no noooooooooooooooo! I shall not count it as a regeneration

The hand doctor is a freak!

we need a nerdy smiley for this thread

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http://www.doctorwhotoys.net/index.htm

i want the 'Classic' Doctors toys and a 9th doctor with moveable legs

[Lord_Zed]

The Tenth Doctor is starting to edge ahead of Tom Baker as my favourte doctor, but he's been aided by some excellant writting. I also have a certain fondness for Sylvester McCoy as he was the new Doctor on the block when I was a kid. Also the first Doctor to be chased up some stairs by a Dalek, That's gotta be the seventh Doctors coolest cliff hanger.