(JULY-2013) Armada Era - Rate it

[reillyd]

I really miss the cool mini-cons. When rid announced they would have minicons I was so excited - but no minicon ports. I couldn't get enough minicons. I'll have to be content with micromasters in Siege

[Autocon]

Minicons = seperate robot alien race
Micromasters = mini cybertronians

Thats correct level up from novice?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Minicons = seperate robot alien race
Micromasters = mini cybertronians

Thats correct level up from novice?

I think in every TF universe (bar IDW) Mini-Cons are Cybertronians, not a seperate alien race.

Perhaps they are just a different species of Cybertronian. Whereas Micromasters are the same species as regular bots, just a lot smaller

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I think in every TF universe (bar IDW) Mini-Cons are Cybertronians, not a seperate alien race.

Perhaps they are just a different species of Cybertronian. Whereas Micromasters are the same species as regular bots, just a lot smaller

When Armada came out, Minicons were another race(and faction) of Cybertronians. Which is why they have their own faction symbol. I can't speak for IDW though, having not read any

[GoktimusPrime]

* Micromasters were explained as Cybertronians who had downsized to become more energy efficient. In Beast Wars the Maximals and Predacons continued to be Micromaster-sized and BW Megatron once referred to the Autobots as "archaic Energon guzzlers."

* In the Armada cartoon continuity the Mini-Cons were indeed a separate foreign species introduced to Cybertron by their creator Unicron.

* In the Armada comics Cybertron was a caste society and the Mini-Cons were a lowly underclass that nobody paid much attention to. The Decepticons captured these Mini-Cons and surgically modified them to power link and boost their host's power.

* In the IDW comics the original Mini-Cons were descendant from the colonists who followed Micronus Prime aboard the Titan Prion. The Black Block Consortia effectively committed genocide against these Mini-Cons, exterminating almost all of them. The only known survivor, Nickel, fled and joined the Decepticon Justice Division.

* The IDW comics also introduced a non-Cybertronian species known as Stentarians; a race of transforming and combining robots. They have been waging a long drawn civil war between the heroic Terradores and evil Ammonites. Hasbro released one set of Ammonites which they marketed as the Mini-Con Assault Team. Shockwave managed to gain control of the Ammonites and commanded all seventy billion of them to descend upon Cybertron (so much so that they blotted out the stars in the sky), keeping the Cybertronians occupied as Shockwave ascended to godhood in order to collapse time-space into a singularity. As you do.

* In the Aligned Continuity the Mini-Cons shared a similar origin with IDW (re: Micronus Prime). The Aligned Mini-Cons are very diverse ranging from the Arms Microns to Deployers to mass-produced drones like Fixit.

* Generation 1 (CHUG retcon; USA): Mini-Cons were created by the Last Autobot to cleanse Cybertron of Mutants and Demons. Which is actually incredibly horrific when you remember that the Mutants and Demons were the indigenous species of Cybertron before Primus came along and reshaped it as Cybertron and populated it with Transformers! Yeah. The Autobots and their Mini-Cons committed genocide against Cybertron's indigenous race! I get that the Demons and Mutants are incredibly hostile and savage (practically Morlocks)... but still. How was Optimus Prime cool with this??

* Generation 1 (CHUG retcon; Japan): Mini-Cons are a sub-faction of Micromasters who have become able to power up their hosts by connecting with them as weapons etc.

[Omega Supreme]

I enjoyed both the Toyline and even the cartoon. If it wasn't for Armada pretty sure I would not have gotten back into Transformers. Everything aside if it wasn't for Armada we wouldn't have a Unicron figure.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I think in every TF universe (bar IDW) Mini-Cons are Cybertronians, not a seperate alien race.

Perhaps they are just a different species of Cybertronian. Whereas Micromasters are the same species as regular bots, just a lot smaller

* Micromasters were explained as Cybertronians who had downsized to become more energy efficient. In Beast Wars the Maximals and Predacons continued to be Micromaster-sized and BW Megatron once referred to the Autobots as "archaic Energon guzzlers."

* In the Armada cartoon continuity the Mini-Cons were indeed a separate foreign species introduced to Cybertron by their creator Unicron.

Well there ya go, I stand corrected on the Armada cartoon front. I will admit to having all the DVD's but haven't really watched them enough to remember all the details like the above.

I guess if you take it for granted that Primus and Unicron are the same species as each other (transforming metal planet gods) then the Mini-Cons are the same as other Transformers, just not natives of Cybertron and a different species. They were just introduced to Cybertron by Unicron in the same way rabbits were introduced to Australia by early colonists - not native but certainly not a completely alien lifeform.

Oh and that has always bugged me a bit - the fact that BW characters were suppposed to be Micromaster sized, and were indeed portrayed as such like when BW Megatron flew over a deactivated Soundwave, but in comics like IDW were portrayed as equivalent size and some of them disguised themselves as big creatures such as a T-Rex yet with no discernable size change between modes.