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    Taranachus: was a member of the Cybertronian Empire, and as such, a son of the Liege Maximo - an ancient Transformer, who left Cybertron long ago to see through his own agenda, and whom built an army with the use of the budding reproduction method.

    Taranachus was part of an exploration mission, locating viable new worlds to be cyber-formed and added to the Hub. Each crew had with it an analyst, Taranachus in this instance, specialising in the study and detection of the mysterious aliens encountered some many centuries earlier. Little had been learnt of them in that time - only faint traces of their unique energy signature had been detected, but if more could be learnt and subsequently added to the Empire to increase their own strength, then the research and information gathering would be worth it.

    Their mission however was endangered when their ship was damaged by a meteorite. They drifted off-course for some time, as all crew had gone into Stasis after the impact. The automatic distress signal had seemingly not caught the attention of the Empire, or was being ignored as the time of their master’s ascension was close at hand, and the Hub was now under attack from a combined Autobot/Decepticon armada.

    When the crew came back online, they found that their numbered had lessened, and they were being held captive aboard a space station of some kind.

    The technology they were surrounded by was that of a species encountered some decades earlier. They were an advanced race, though peaceful, who attempted to engaged in a futile battle for their planet, which had been identified as suitable, because of its abundant resources, to be added to the Hub. Their people were scattered when the Empire was victorious.

    Their captor revealed himself - a scientist, who survived the horrific battle, and had sworn vengeance against their race for destroying his people. He was constructing a weapon, as big as a moon, in which to attack the Hub with directly. It had some years to go until its completion however, but had engines large enough to propel it from being detected by the Empire before it was ready.

    The scientist informed the Empire troops that their missing number had been taken away for testing, to identify weaknesses that would help defeat them later on. Sadly, they had not survived the testing process. Due to his commitments with getting the Battle-Moon operation, he turned the continuing testing over to his only companion, the Moon’s computer, which displayed incredible intelligence of its own - a capability the Empire had never identified in this species, the ability to create almost sentient artificial intelligence.

    In reality, the Scientist was still a pacifist, and only allowed the testing of the Cybertronians under the urging of the computer, who outlined what advantages could be achieved from the study.

    The computer delivered reports to the Scientist of what had been learnt and how many of the crew had now lost their lives in the testing. The Scientist could no longer sit idly by and allow it to continue, even to these creatures that had caused him so much pain. He demanded the testing stop and they be freed. The computer denied his request. It was not in the computer’s programming to deny any of his commands. He tried to take the computer offline manually, but it failed to work. In the end, he smashed a large control panel, which seemed to have the desired effect.

    The Scientist raced down to the holding cells and found the four remaining Cybertronians, but they were not as he had left them, not at all. The computer had altered them, reformatted their super-structures. Testing them indeed, but for what? He brought them online and guided them to their ship, which was still being held in a hanger. The Scientist watched them fly away, then turned to deal with the malfunctioning computer.

    Back aboard their ship, the four remaining Cybertronians took stock of their new forms. The computer had indeed altered them, arguably improved them. Taranachus, Seethe, Cinder and Rampant felt free of the strict control that was part of their programming. But deep in their Sparks, they knew something different, something dark, something that was gaining strength by the day. Their ship seemingly repaired, they made for the Hub.

    But upon their arrival, they found desolation. The Hub had been destroyed. This was not the sign of a successful ascension by their Master, but of failure, and subsequent destruction. Energy readings leaving the Hub were of a Cybertronian type - their cousins, who still resided on Cybertron, had destroyed the Liege Maximo. But instead of a sense of despair at the loss of their lord, they sensed freedom, and opportunity. The three larger Cybertronians now took charge and the dicision was made: Followed the fading energy signatures back to Cybertron - not out of a need for revenge, but out of curiosity for what their future may hold - and because protection from the growing darkness, for the moment, was only to be found behind the Matrix.

    Back on the Battle-Moon, the Scientist was thrown into the already smashed control panel by a tentacle-arm protruding from the wall. A voiced boomed from the computer demanding to be obeyed. The scientist could do little but whimper and bow his head. The Moon’s engines had been firing at full thrust, driving it after the signal from the Cybertronian Empire ship. What was found at the end of the signal was beyond the computers’ wildest imaginings. The Moon’s central weapon opened, but instead of firing, it began to consume the debris from the detonated Hub. As the elements were processed, power surged through the Moon’s uncompleted frame. It announced to the universe - THE RETURN OF UNICRON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads View Post
    Eh, earthen numbers in the tf mythos never really bothered me. It's not as if they aren't hugely anthropomorphised as it is anyway.
    I justify it by all their contact with Earth over the years rubbing off on them

    Both are really interesting concepts. The second sets up an interesting interplay, between madness/revenge and loss. There is also an unsettling element of twisted fate, determinism and the cruel nature of the universe (very Nietzsche). It certainly fits the tone of the character nicely and darkens the nature of the Maximals with the whole, 'rampant drive for immortality regardless of moral cost' angle.
    Yeah, faceless men in white coats are scary.

    The first isn't any less interesting though. It paints a picture of a more narcissistic hell bent quest. It is also kind of disturbing as it has a normal figure being reduced to 'evil'. There are certainly some Jungian archetypes at work in this one. The whole shadow vs the self or Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
    Nietzsche, Jung, I never thought some of my simple premises would have a psychological analysis put on them You need to have a chat to Ode to a Grasshopper, you both seem to be kids of Philosophy.

    Personally I would go for the second premise. But I love what you've got here and reckon both are really suitable for the character.
    I'm leaning towards the 2nd one also. The 1st is more of a 'tragedy', especially if I added a lost love interest, but I don't know if Tragedy quite suits the character in entirity.

    It's all looking at what Beast Wars gave us and trying to work backwards to try and make a story that fits and gives us the eventual character(s) we love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verno View Post
    It helps when he and the Tripredacus Council were members of the Cybertronian Empire...


    Time to get the old Data Retriever looked at again.

    Quote Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads View Post
    Both are really interesting concepts. The second sets up an interesting interplay, between madness/revenge and loss. There is also an unsettling element of twisted fate, determinism and the cruel nature of the universe (very Nietzsche). It certainly fits the tone of the character nicely and darkens the nature of the Maximals with the whole, 'rampant drive for immortality regardless of moral cost' angle.
    Man ROTR, that is an extremely well worded response and I concur with your sentiments completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hursticon View Post
    Time to get the old Data Retriever looked at again.
    Not canonically, but they are in my universe.

    Man ROTR, that is an extremely well worded response and I concur with your sentiments completely.
    2 votes for the 2nd one. I'll try and make a go of it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verno View Post
    Not canonically, but they are in my universe.
    Ah!, and having just read your posting about Taranachus; it makes all the more sense.

    2 votes for the 2nd one. I'll try and make a go of it tomorrow.
    Don't rush it or force it dude, tackle it when it comes to you.

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    I shot IDW an email, to see if they were at all interested in, at the very least, reading some of my stuff, to which I received the simple, one line reply:

    "Thanks for this, but Hasbro isn't open to us doing any more Beast Wars comics."

    Is not really a BW comic, is it? Which suggests to me they didn't even read it. Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verno View Post
    I justify it by all their contact with Earth over the years rubbing off on them
    That makes sense, especially with the importance the earth war played in their history.

    Yeah, faceless men in white coats are scary.
    Especially when they come at you with very big needles and such.


    Nietzsche, Jung, I never thought some of my simple premises would have a psychological analysis put on them You need to have a chat to Ode to a Grasshopper, you both seem to be kids of Philosophy.
    Except that Ode to a Grasshopper actually knows what he is talking about.

    Man ROTR, that is an extremely well worded response and I concur with your sentiments completely.
    Groovy! Thats two for the second one. Can't wait to see what you come up with Verno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verno View Post
    I shot IDW an email, to see if they were at all interested in, at the very least, reading some of my stuff, to which I received the simple, one line reply:

    "Thanks for this, but Hasbro isn't open to us doing any more Beast Wars comics."

    Is not really a BW comic, is it? Which suggests to me they didn't even read it. Oh well...
    mmmm, defiantly didn't bother to read it. Guess Hasbro reckons the BW line doesn't have any more earning potential.

    I am loving it though. The return of Unicron was particularly nice. Keep it coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads View Post
    mmmm, defiantly didn't bother to read it. Guess Hasbro reckons the BW line doesn't have any more earning potential.
    It makes me a bit sad to be honest, and draws into question Hasbro's motivations for allowing the release of The Gathering and Ascending a few years back. Where they just token efforts to commemorate the 10th Anniversary and flog some crappy repaints?

    Furman had already penned the story for Dreamwave, when they were still in operation or whatnot, so if Hasbro told IDW to get hold of a BW story quickly, they were laughing. The drawing certainly tailed off in quality towards the end which was a real shame, and the culminating story line was basically a rehash of some BotCon thing with Shakoract.

    Curiouser and curiouser. Maybe I'll have to wait until the 20th Anniversary Although that's only another 5 years away

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    Sorry, it seems the differing quality in drawing came from Guido Guidi taking over the duties. Don was on holidays. Damn shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verno View Post
    Where they just token efforts to commemorate the 10th Anniversary and flog some crappy repaints?
    This. While I didn't mind ascension and gathering, they weren't anything really special. I was always really disappointed by the lack of BW comics. It never seems to get the love G1 does despite its popularity.


    I usually love Guido Guidi's art but that stuff certainly wasn't his best.

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